Canada could be doing more to lean in on the military applications of the G6500. AWEAC, stand off EW/EA, and surveillance are all ways other countries have utilized the platform - these are not capabilities Canada has outside of some SOF applications, but they are valuable. If we want to mature a high-tech, export oriented defence industry, the existing success of the G6500 is a good place to invest.
Something I have long advocated for lol. The framework is already there, as is a lot of the work. There's lots of potential to do more with the Global family if we desired.
Quebec is placing a $35 million bet on Bombardier, but Ottawa remains skeptical. The House of Commons Defence committee recently heard testimony describing Bombardier’s military plans as just "paper aircraft" compared to Boeing's fleet. This new Dorval facility is likely an attempt to prove that the domestic manufacturing capacity is real. We will see if this investment shifts the debate during the next federal procurement review.
Was that specific to their proposed maratime patrol aircraft? It is/was a paper aircraft and even the paper specs were lacking compared to the P8.
The Saab Global Eye AWACs (Bombardier 6500 airframe) is in service with the UAE and has been ordered by France. That would be the next aircraft Bombardier is likely marketing to the RCAF
The transcripts show that the "paper aircraft" label was specifically about the Maritime Patrol deal. Witnesses frequently tell the Defence committee that they want to avoid "developmental risk" at all costs. They prefer buying gear that already works. Since the GlobalEye is currently flying for other countries, it faces a totally different calculation in Ottawa.
At some point, if we want to truly encourage the Canadian Fefence industrial base.... We're going to have to start working with our OEMs & integrators to pay them for
development aircraft/vehicles, UxVs etc.
"Domestic content" on foreign origin MOTS/COTS designs only gets you so far. & Companies need some investment/contracts for the risk calculus of new tech development to make sense...
Thats a conversation that I fear the DIS won't be fullt set in having looking st some of the plans in it. The RCAF taking the lead on AAR on the Global is a prime example of investement in existing assets that I want to see, though sadly it requires a level of risk that our adversive nature often wants to avoid
No gripen for Canada, SAAB expects us to order 72 for it to be worth their while to build here. That would leave F-35 locked at 16. Not going to happen they'd need around 40 F-35s just to have running squadrons and make the added cost of running the F-35 worth while. If we go to a split fleet it should only be with 6th gen period. Let's not use or martial defence to prop up Quebec jobs while they scream for independence.
88 fighters is not set in stone. 65 F35’s was the original order from the Harper government, our present plane the CF-18, 138 was the order. Saab set up Gripen E production in Brazil on an order of 36.
Canada could be doing more to lean in on the military applications of the G6500. AWEAC, stand off EW/EA, and surveillance are all ways other countries have utilized the platform - these are not capabilities Canada has outside of some SOF applications, but they are valuable. If we want to mature a high-tech, export oriented defence industry, the existing success of the G6500 is a good place to invest.
Something I have long advocated for lol. The framework is already there, as is a lot of the work. There's lots of potential to do more with the Global family if we desired.
Quebec is placing a $35 million bet on Bombardier, but Ottawa remains skeptical. The House of Commons Defence committee recently heard testimony describing Bombardier’s military plans as just "paper aircraft" compared to Boeing's fleet. This new Dorval facility is likely an attempt to prove that the domestic manufacturing capacity is real. We will see if this investment shifts the debate during the next federal procurement review.
Was that specific to their proposed maratime patrol aircraft? It is/was a paper aircraft and even the paper specs were lacking compared to the P8.
The Saab Global Eye AWACs (Bombardier 6500 airframe) is in service with the UAE and has been ordered by France. That would be the next aircraft Bombardier is likely marketing to the RCAF
The transcripts show that the "paper aircraft" label was specifically about the Maritime Patrol deal. Witnesses frequently tell the Defence committee that they want to avoid "developmental risk" at all costs. They prefer buying gear that already works. Since the GlobalEye is currently flying for other countries, it faces a totally different calculation in Ottawa.
At some point, if we want to truly encourage the Canadian Fefence industrial base.... We're going to have to start working with our OEMs & integrators to pay them for
development aircraft/vehicles, UxVs etc.
"Domestic content" on foreign origin MOTS/COTS designs only gets you so far. & Companies need some investment/contracts for the risk calculus of new tech development to make sense...
Thats a conversation that I fear the DIS won't be fullt set in having looking st some of the plans in it. The RCAF taking the lead on AAR on the Global is a prime example of investement in existing assets that I want to see, though sadly it requires a level of risk that our adversive nature often wants to avoid
No gripen for Canada, SAAB expects us to order 72 for it to be worth their while to build here. That would leave F-35 locked at 16. Not going to happen they'd need around 40 F-35s just to have running squadrons and make the added cost of running the F-35 worth while. If we go to a split fleet it should only be with 6th gen period. Let's not use or martial defence to prop up Quebec jobs while they scream for independence.
88 fighters is not set in stone. 65 F35’s was the original order from the Harper government, our present plane the CF-18, 138 was the order. Saab set up Gripen E production in Brazil on an order of 36.