I mean St. John is getting a bit tight, but there are a few reasons Sydney is nice as well. The Coast Guard Academy is located there, Sydport as a location has a good amount of available capacity to use, established industry and workforce, Ice-Free yeah.
Building out new Infrastructure and fscilities will be important in the coming decades. Existing locations are filling fast, and there is only so much that can be done to build capacity.
I mean, if we're being honest most facilities outside the main cities are gonna be a bit small and lacking! Sydney represents, at least to me though some will argue, one of the more prepared and ready options if someone like the navy decided it needed a new facility, in an existing location, outside the major cities.
St. John still has some expansion potential, but as far as I know it isnt much. One good thing about the CCG move to DND is that these kinds of conversations can happen in tandem, and looking into how both sides can share infrastructure and integrate each other into future developments is an active conversation going on.
So maybe there's potnetial? I can't say for certain that its a smack dab yes. Obviously the CCG already maintains a presence and relarionship there already, although often forgotten is that Sydport traces back to Point Edward.
Argentia is another choice I've considered! Although would likely need a lot of work, which isn't a bad thing mind you. Lord knows they could use a win...
You presume I am unaware. Does your reply contradict anything I have said? Does section 35 give veto rights to them? Where does it say they govern the country? Rights were afirmed that were not even defined. There should be no special rights for anyone and our constitution is a joke. The fascist UN is using them to destroy OUR rights and this country along with them.
Nowhere does “consult” mean that they “have a veto” or “govern the country.” How about let’s not use a story about CCG icebreaker maintenance for a mouth-foaming rant about how Indigenous people supposedly conquered the poor innocent European colonizers. Talk about going off on a tangent. Rabid Indigenous Derangement Syndrome is real.
They should not be consulted or have any special rights. If they have to be consulted it follows they have a say. Having a say means being amoung those governing. It should not be that hard to follow.
Under the current climate, it is far from a stretch that if they protested, it would be stopped or they would get the usual special treatment.
Next you try to deflect by minimizing after you assert this right ( undefined ) being in the constitution. Then you expose your inability to see a different opinion and one that correctly points out the folly of these policies. According to you, apparently, wanting all Canadians to be treated equally is deranged. Typical.
You “logic” is ridiculous and absurd. Not just because I disagree with it but because everyone understands that “consulting” is not the same as “governing”. I “consult” and am “consulted” almost daily by different groups and individuals in the course of my work but I neither govern nor am I governed by any of those groups. If this press release had said consulting municipalities you would not be here ranting about municipalities “governing” the coast guard. Rightful criticism of your ridiculous argument isn’t hate.
“Consult” literally means “seek feedback” not govern. Hence your rant is unhinged. And the only hate-filled person is you as shown by your total spin-out over this one generic line that is totally unrelated to the topic
I led you through the logic as a child and it still doesnt sink in.
A difference of opinion is only unhinged in your hatefilled world. Trying to transfer your hate to me is not a substitute for logic. You cannot deny the special treatment afforded this group.
Treating Canadians equally is not hate. Spewing despicably in the face of a person who advocates it, is.
I am still waiting for you to back up your assertion about me. Your unwillingness to do so further demonstrates which of us in truly unhinged.
Governments and businesses consult the public or their employees or their customers on topics all the time. You have certainly been invited by a government or business to provide feedback on a topic did that automatically mean you governed them? I’m not playing semantics, like all Trump supporters you don’t understand the meaning of words in your unhinged rants.
You’re confusing me with the other person responding to you. It doesn’t follow that being consulted is analogous to “governing” or that directly affected stakeholders being consulted gives them special privilege over those who are not directly affected. Furthermore, Indigenous communities just like non-indigenous municipalities and provinces are consulted so this isn’t “special rights”. Don’t let your burning contempt for indigenous people warp your mind
You confuse my objection to special treatment for contempt for aboriginals. A tactic for a weak argument. Why do they need to have special consultation privileges if they have no say? Like all leftists, you play semantics. They are being given a say not afforded the non aboriginal population. It goes much further than simple consultation in many respects. Your hatred toward anyone who objects to this special status is obvious.
St Johns not ice free enough?
Not enough room there?
Maybe planning on a couple more Polars in the future?
I mean St. John is getting a bit tight, but there are a few reasons Sydney is nice as well. The Coast Guard Academy is located there, Sydport as a location has a good amount of available capacity to use, established industry and workforce, Ice-Free yeah.
Building out new Infrastructure and fscilities will be important in the coming decades. Existing locations are filling fast, and there is only so much that can be done to build capacity.
so they cycle between Sydney and St Johns depending on operational status and maintenance requirements?
Is Sydney a good alternative for the RCN? Kinda a small isolated town
I mean, if we're being honest most facilities outside the main cities are gonna be a bit small and lacking! Sydney represents, at least to me though some will argue, one of the more prepared and ready options if someone like the navy decided it needed a new facility, in an existing location, outside the major cities.
St. John still has some expansion potential, but as far as I know it isnt much. One good thing about the CCG move to DND is that these kinds of conversations can happen in tandem, and looking into how both sides can share infrastructure and integrate each other into future developments is an active conversation going on.
So maybe there's potnetial? I can't say for certain that its a smack dab yes. Obviously the CCG already maintains a presence and relarionship there already, although often forgotten is that Sydport traces back to Point Edward.
the other end of the ferry interests me. Argentia/Placentia and its only an hour and a half from St. Johns on a good day if your a slow driver
Argentia is another choice I've considered! Although would likely need a lot of work, which isn't a bad thing mind you. Lord knows they could use a win...
Thanks everyone for not concentrating the discussion on the CCG. I am pleased Trumpist ideology falls outside the CCG purview..
You presume I am unaware. Does your reply contradict anything I have said? Does section 35 give veto rights to them? Where does it say they govern the country? Rights were afirmed that were not even defined. There should be no special rights for anyone and our constitution is a joke. The fascist UN is using them to destroy OUR rights and this country along with them.
Nowhere does “consult” mean that they “have a veto” or “govern the country.” How about let’s not use a story about CCG icebreaker maintenance for a mouth-foaming rant about how Indigenous people supposedly conquered the poor innocent European colonizers. Talk about going off on a tangent. Rabid Indigenous Derangement Syndrome is real.
They should not be consulted or have any special rights. If they have to be consulted it follows they have a say. Having a say means being amoung those governing. It should not be that hard to follow.
Under the current climate, it is far from a stretch that if they protested, it would be stopped or they would get the usual special treatment.
Next you try to deflect by minimizing after you assert this right ( undefined ) being in the constitution. Then you expose your inability to see a different opinion and one that correctly points out the folly of these policies. According to you, apparently, wanting all Canadians to be treated equally is deranged. Typical.
LMAO! In MAGA land gibberish is called “facts” and “hating” means anything that contradicts their nonsense. Good riddance!
You “logic” is ridiculous and absurd. Not just because I disagree with it but because everyone understands that “consulting” is not the same as “governing”. I “consult” and am “consulted” almost daily by different groups and individuals in the course of my work but I neither govern nor am I governed by any of those groups. If this press release had said consulting municipalities you would not be here ranting about municipalities “governing” the coast guard. Rightful criticism of your ridiculous argument isn’t hate.
You are stuck in a loop unable to admit to obvious facts. You are boring me. Stop hating. Good bye.
“Consult” literally means “seek feedback” not govern. Hence your rant is unhinged. And the only hate-filled person is you as shown by your total spin-out over this one generic line that is totally unrelated to the topic
I led you through the logic as a child and it still doesnt sink in.
A difference of opinion is only unhinged in your hatefilled world. Trying to transfer your hate to me is not a substitute for logic. You cannot deny the special treatment afforded this group.
Treating Canadians equally is not hate. Spewing despicably in the face of a person who advocates it, is.
I am still waiting for you to back up your assertion about me. Your unwillingness to do so further demonstrates which of us in truly unhinged.
Governments and businesses consult the public or their employees or their customers on topics all the time. You have certainly been invited by a government or business to provide feedback on a topic did that automatically mean you governed them? I’m not playing semantics, like all Trump supporters you don’t understand the meaning of words in your unhinged rants.
Typical, hate filled lefist. Cant debate anything on merits, go right to logical fallacy. It is the same pattern with all of you.
This is not about feedback. This is about special treatment not afforded others.
Try to contain your hate.
Please feel free to point out any unhinged rant or is backing up your projection not something to can do?
You’re confusing me with the other person responding to you. It doesn’t follow that being consulted is analogous to “governing” or that directly affected stakeholders being consulted gives them special privilege over those who are not directly affected. Furthermore, Indigenous communities just like non-indigenous municipalities and provinces are consulted so this isn’t “special rights”. Don’t let your burning contempt for indigenous people warp your mind
You confuse my objection to special treatment for contempt for aboriginals. A tactic for a weak argument. Why do they need to have special consultation privileges if they have no say? Like all leftists, you play semantics. They are being given a say not afforded the non aboriginal population. It goes much further than simple consultation in many respects. Your hatred toward anyone who objects to this special status is obvious.
I cringe whenevet I read about a so called duty to consult aboriginal populations. No one elected the UN as our government. It should be ended.
It's in our own Constitution Act from 1982 (section 35). It long pre-dates the UNDRIP