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Craig Smith's avatar

Great article. As mentioned the export record of TKMS is stellar. This reduces risk compared to Hanwha, where we will be their first export customer.

An additional level of risk the Koreans have created is their intention to launch a nuclear powered sub by the mid 2030’s, right in the middle of their deliveries to Canada (should they be successful).

If we are looking at this as a 50 year partnership we would be buying what for them would become their 2nd tier of submarines, with their first tier being nuclear powered. Where is the upgrade path? Even as industrious as the South Koreans are there is only so much money and expertise to go around, most of their attention will go to the development of their nuclear fleet.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/south-korea-aims-launch-first-nuclear-powered-submarine-by-mid-2030s-2026-05-26/

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The Korean Sub is a better choice , it has a strategic Deterrence in the VLS , the German Sub does not . The German Sub is built for shallow coastal waters of the Baltic Area and its VERY GOOD in that role , its also NOT MEANT for seas with Ice . Believe it or not its AO is NEVER covered in ICE , its stealth covering is expensive to replace and extremely fragile , any contact with ICE will incur massive and expensive Damage . The Korean Sub has a reinforced Hull and a reinforced Sail . If you where just trying to look at Sub vs Sub warfare in Canadian Coastal Waters the German Sub would probably be the Sub for Canada but that means you can throw out NATO Operations across the Atlantic and Pacific Operations with Australia , New Zealand , South Korea and Japan . According to the Canadian Government , The Crown and His Majesty's Canadian Armed Forces , Canada needs a Deep Open Ocean Submarines , this makes the Korean Sub the only choice . Now if you look at the two subs with out the Canadian Context the Koran Sub still beats the German sub in the ability to engage Surface Combatants at 1,000 / 1,500 KM away with the VLS.

The Korean Sub also beats the German Sub in Strategic Deterrence and Strategic Strike with its 10 VLS , the ability to launch Missile systems from under water , undetected , laying waste to an aggressors Military instillations or their city centers is something the German Sub CAN NOT DO . Allies have to understand Canadian Waters are NOT THE BALTIC , they need to understand our Operating conditions and Strategic needs are NOT THE SAME as theirs . With the U.S. pulling subs out of NATO Europe , if OUR ALLIES want Canadian help in that field then the KOREAN SUB is not only the BEST choice , its the only choice . This Best Choice head to head for everything but MAYBE Sub vs Sub direct combat is the Korean sub , The Best Choice according to what CANADA needs its Sub to do is the Korean Sub , The best Choice for Canada to help NATO in the Undersea domain is the Korean Sub .

If Canada picks the German sub , best thing to do is LEAVE NATO , Leave NORAD, declare neutrality , stay out of the Pacific and Atlantic , Stay OUT of Europe , pull everything into Personal National Defence . If Canada wants to do things with Allies in the Indo Pacific and NATO in Europe is needs to act like it and work accordingly , that is VERY clearly the Korean Sub .

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