I question the reason for the lack of stabilizer fins on the Hero class which was based on a chosen design that clearly had incorporated them for a reason. Was there an operational reason they didn't want those fins? If so why would they choose a design that requires them in the first place? Please tell me someone was fired over this decision.
Canadianization of sensors, weapons and maybe even the combat system actually makes sense to me, but buying an off the shelf hull design and trying to change that for their needs kinda feels like it defeats the purpose of buying off the shelf in the first place. It always ends poorly.
Didn't the Vice-Admiral say he wanted the Orcas replacement to be 3x larger? That would put them at 99m long? Or was he referring to tonnage only? Which would only be around 610 t. Either way, would this not be too large for the Coast Guard needs? Just curious.
Three times the fleet, though there is definetly a desire to go bigger in terms of size. Thats more likely to be Sentinel-class size. Thats still a conversation being had.
I'll have to listen to the podcast again, I was pretty certain I heard him say their replacement should be 3x larger for better training for other larger vessels, however I could be wrong.
Curiosity had me listen to that section of the podcast again. He says "a fleet that probably tripples in size so that you can put one in every community that has a Naval Reserve division on the water".
But then goes on to say he wants them to have a weapon, classified comms, and sensors on board; which certainly implies increased tonnage as well.
Technically you could do a lot with the Orca lol. You can arm them with a .50! But yeah, these future vessels are likely to be more Sentinel-class sized if I had to tske a very early guess. Depends a lot on whats wanted.
Also have to take into account if you want this at a bunch of naval reserves that it will affect the type of platform and it's design greatly.
I feel like the naval reserves in Canada are not used the way they traditionally were. IMO they should be trained on and operating a more armed and sensored platform so they could actually contribute to the defense of the nation. In sudden conflicts it's too late to then consider getting them better ships and training. The reserves should be utilized to increase the combat capable size of the Navy overall, if only to defend our shores freeing up the regular navy for further off shore and offensive operations. The same should apply to all departments reserves in this way giving them ships that can fight for navy, armored vehicles and proper equipment for the army reserves, and fighter/trainers for the airforce reserves much like the US has the national guard for these duties, perhaps a full order of F-35s and a smaller order of Gripen-e for a reserve/national Guard airforce. Lol there I go again dreaming of a Canadian forces actually prepared for National Defense lol.
I called the Hero's the R-Class 2.0 I served on the R Class, a US designed 95' Cutter, with "Canadian mods" which of course made them roll badly. Whatever they get, the RHIB should be stern launched and recovered.
I question the reason for the lack of stabilizer fins on the Hero class which was based on a chosen design that clearly had incorporated them for a reason. Was there an operational reason they didn't want those fins? If so why would they choose a design that requires them in the first place? Please tell me someone was fired over this decision.
Cost was a factor. Also wamted to save weight and reduce hull resistance. It was a sacrifice that was thought to be able to be made.
Canadianization of sensors, weapons and maybe even the combat system actually makes sense to me, but buying an off the shelf hull design and trying to change that for their needs kinda feels like it defeats the purpose of buying off the shelf in the first place. It always ends poorly.
Didn't the Vice-Admiral say he wanted the Orcas replacement to be 3x larger? That would put them at 99m long? Or was he referring to tonnage only? Which would only be around 610 t. Either way, would this not be too large for the Coast Guard needs? Just curious.
Three times the fleet, though there is definetly a desire to go bigger in terms of size. Thats more likely to be Sentinel-class size. Thats still a conversation being had.
I could be misintrepreting, but I thought he said he wanted 3x the number of Orcas, rather than 3x the size of each vessel.
I'll have to listen to the podcast again, I was pretty certain I heard him say their replacement should be 3x larger for better training for other larger vessels, however I could be wrong.
Curiosity had me listen to that section of the podcast again. He says "a fleet that probably tripples in size so that you can put one in every community that has a Naval Reserve division on the water".
But then goes on to say he wants them to have a weapon, classified comms, and sensors on board; which certainly implies increased tonnage as well.
Technically you could do a lot with the Orca lol. You can arm them with a .50! But yeah, these future vessels are likely to be more Sentinel-class sized if I had to tske a very early guess. Depends a lot on whats wanted.
Also have to take into account if you want this at a bunch of naval reserves that it will affect the type of platform and it's design greatly.
I feel like the naval reserves in Canada are not used the way they traditionally were. IMO they should be trained on and operating a more armed and sensored platform so they could actually contribute to the defense of the nation. In sudden conflicts it's too late to then consider getting them better ships and training. The reserves should be utilized to increase the combat capable size of the Navy overall, if only to defend our shores freeing up the regular navy for further off shore and offensive operations. The same should apply to all departments reserves in this way giving them ships that can fight for navy, armored vehicles and proper equipment for the army reserves, and fighter/trainers for the airforce reserves much like the US has the national guard for these duties, perhaps a full order of F-35s and a smaller order of Gripen-e for a reserve/national Guard airforce. Lol there I go again dreaming of a Canadian forces actually prepared for National Defense lol.
I called the Hero's the R-Class 2.0 I served on the R Class, a US designed 95' Cutter, with "Canadian mods" which of course made them roll badly. Whatever they get, the RHIB should be stern launched and recovered.
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Oh gosh never thought of it like that. 🤣